Ruckus is a musician and an unassuming spiritual guru / future cult leader. He currently plays drums in a band called Hammers with our friend Lucas Stone, and he runs an organisation called Woke Blokes that is trying to help men understand themselves better in healthy and constructive ways. He’s not really going to start a cult… but with his brain, charisma, and talent, he definitely could.

This is a great conversation about relationships, male and female roles inside those relationships, self-reflection and motivation.

To find out more about Ruckus, please visit his facebook page here, or his instagram here, or the Woke Blokes instagram here. Also check out his band Hammers here, and if you’re a fella and you want to come to his upcoming event, the details are all here.

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